Mussche: ‘I’ve learned to identify both the positive and the less positive aspects of life. This perspective helps you to go easy on yourself to some extent. I also try to share this attitude with people who have made mistakes. There is a dark place in their lives, but you don’t want to think of them only from that perspective.’ Van der Stighelen: ‘One of the main sources of violence lies in the sense of not being heard. When people feel that their voices are not being listened to, they may become angry, rebellious and susceptible to extremism. It is important to pay serious attention to others. It can help to solve many issues.’